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The Testimony of the Abbé René Laurentin

The ABBÉ RENÉ LAURENTIN, probably the most famous learned man about Our Lady' s apparitions, came to Rome in December 1993. He visited Marisa Rossi and Don Claudio Gatti, he assisted to an apparition and had an interview with these two protagonists. He reported this experience on the magazine "Stella Maris" by means of an article published on the 292/2 (February 1994) issue. Below is the text of that article translated into english from french.


THE SECRET ROME OF MYSTICS AND VISIONARIES
A precocious visionary

On the 5th of December (1993) I have visited Marisa Rossi. She lives by a little community founded by the priest Don Claudio Gatti (Via delle Benedettine 91, 00135 Rome). She has an apparition on this Sunday which is preceded, as usual, by a PRUDENT CATECHESIS by Don Claudio Gatti and is followed by a celebration of a FERVENT MASS. There are lots of young people. Songs are perfectly prepared and Marisa is a soloist and her voice is harmonious. The community says the prayers in the chapel placed in the basement of the small residence of the "Movement for the Commitment and Witnessing". Marisa looks as an ORDINARY WOMAN OF THE PEOPLE, SHE IS SIMPLE AND LOVABLE. In the moment of the apparition she prays in the center of the chapel and just like the visionaries of Medjugorje, she kneels down when she sees Our Lady. The ecstasy doesn' t separate her form outside the world. At the beginning, when the assembly prays WITH OUR LADY, She says to Marisa that the rythm of the pray is too much rapid. The visionary repeats it and so people slacken speed. Marisa talks with Our Lady in a loud voice. The conversation is recorded just like in Kibeho (Ruanda, Africa). THE ATTITUDE OF THE VISIONARY IS SIMPLE AND WITHOUT PARTICULARITY. HER EYES AND HER FACE EXPRESS HER FEELING. The apparition lasts about five minutes.
I have asked Don Claudio Gatti:"Ever since is Marisa seeing Our Lady?". He replied: "The apparitions happened in three periods i.e.:
1) From 1971 to 1985 they were strictly private;
2) From 1986 to 4th september 1993 they only were open to the participation of a few people praying;
3) From 4th September 1993 in consequence of that day' s Our Lady' s message, they became public".
"What are the messages about?" I have asked and Don Claudio Gatti replied: "Our Lady says that She is the Mother of the Eucharist, that is the Mother of Christ Who is integrally present in the Sacrament and just this means the statue which is placed in the chapel, because Our Lady keeps the Holy Host and the chalice".
The sculptor of this statue pointed out that She doesn' t keep fingers just like a priest giving the Holy Communion. The Host is between the middle and the annular fingers and is turned three fourths to Her. This way avoids the risk of suggesting an image of "Our Lady-Priest" which, since 1913, has been forbidden by the Holy Office.
Our Lady (Don Claudio Gatti is saying) remembers to the Church: "Too many theologians have subtilized about the real Presence and they have reduced the Eucharist to a symbol. The Eucharist is a sacrament which is symbol and reality: symbol-reality, total gift, which asks for adoration and thanksgiving".
THE MESSAGE OF PRAYING, CONVERSION AND FAST COINCIDES WITH THE MEDJUGORJE' S MESSAGES. I have asked: "In 1971 Marisa was more than twenty years old. What happened before?". Don Claudio Gatti had an hesitation but he replied: "In 1971 I have become to be the spiritual director of Marisa". Question: "But before, had some apparitions already taken place?". Answer: "Yes" SAID MARISA "I have been seeing Our Lady since I was two and a half years old". Answer: "Two and a half years, it is a very big memory! Personally I haven' t reminiscences of visionaries before three years old. And beginning from that moment did Our Lady clarify who She was?". Marisa' s reply: "No, She appeared to me almost every day as an ordinary person and She helped me, She advised and conforted me. My family didn' t know what to think of me and they were saying: is she a stupid or a saint?".
Marisa' s father was a hard man and I have realized that she needed assistance and comfort, but she pays attention not to speak ill of her father. I only can imagine the concealed drama.
"Step by step" Marisa says "I realized that She was Our Lady and She has confirmed it to me by means of the messages. I had offered my life for a young man who in that time was preparing himself for the priesthood. On 9th March 1963 I was present in a mystic way during his ordination. He was living in Marche (Italian region). Some time after, the Divine Providence let me meet him. In that place there were a lot of priests and when I was in front of the first priest I met, I thought: it is him! But Our Lady explained to me that he was an other one who really was Don Gatti, who become my spiritual director since 1971".
Don Gatti added: "In front of these extraordinary events, I had much hesitation, I reflected very much and I sought the advice of other priests. Then I also considered that fruits were good. So, step by step, I have constituted this little community and it is my very commitment to give a Christian forming to her".
Mr Paolo Lunetti, the husband of Marija, the visionary of Medjugorje, for some time went to this community, but he wasn' t able to become integrated. He only thought about Medjugorje and his next bride".
Question: "And how was constituted this group of pray with such a lot of young men?". Don Gatti replied: "Many of them come here from afar. Then if they get married, they have before serious engagements and that' s very rare today".


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